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Jen vs. Madina Lake

It’s the summer of 2007. I’m on a road trip with a couple of my closest friends. We are on our way to Toronto to not only see some of our other good friends, but a handful of amazing bands. We are on our way to Projeckt Revolution! I was very much aware of who was playing, but I didn’t have time before hand to check out the bands I didn’t know about. The first band to play was a little band from Chicago called Madina Lake. Well, if we didn’t fall in love!! When I talked to Stephen from Anberlin back in Sept, he mentioned to me that they would be doing a cross Canada tour. So I told the girls and it was set in stone that we were going. We were so stoked, but then we heard that Madina Lake was joining them and we hit the roof!! So naturally we went looking for contacts and we found them…and they are two of the nicest people I have ever talked to. They set up this interview, which was such an amazing opportunity, and I am so glad it happened. And like Caity says, these boys really ARE the biggest sugar-faces!!

[Side note: Even though it was technically only with Dan and Nathan, Matthew and Mateo were both in the room…just watching Anberlin out the window!]

"If someone could grant us the gift of letting us think that we helped them in any way, shape or form that is everything."
- Nathan Leone: Madina Lake.



For our readers who don’t know who you are, could you please introduce yourself and what you do for the band?

Dan: Yes. My name is Dan, and I play drums.

Nathan: I’m Nathan, and I sing for Madina Lake.


How did Madina Lake come to be, and where did the name come from?

Nathan: Um…

Dan: You start.

Nathan: Okay! Well it’s kind of a long story. We were in two different bands in Chicago that were actually kind of competing against each other. Matt and I were in one, and they (Dan and Mateo) were in another. And basically the first time we played together, we knew that they had what we were missing and we had what they were missing. So we started hanging out, partying together and talking about making a band. And it was pretty quickly we came together and started as best friends, and talked about a band where it would be more than just music, we wanted to express our whole views on like, our culture and society. So we made up a place called Madina Lake and went from there.

Dan: Everything came together all at the same time. Like we had all these crazy ideas and philosophies and weird sh*t, as well as music. And we had all these names that we liked, and he turned it into this story, Matthew over there (Points to Matt who was standing reading a poster on the wall, eating an apple. For those who don’t know, Matt is the bass player)


(At this point we all stopped to watch Matt eat an apple, then dance a little bit! It was a massive fun time!)

Matt: What did I do?

(Laughs)

Dan: So yeah, we went from there!

Nathan (to Matt): Just looked awesome!

Matt: Guilty!

(Laughs)


You put your first single from Attics To Eden up on your myspace, how have the fans responded to it?

Dan: The first one is…House Of Cards?

Nathan: No, the new single.
,br> Dan: Oh!


I’m sorry! I’m trying to yell.

Manda: It’s very loud!

[Jens Note: We were actually doing the interview above the stage where Anberlin was playing!]

Dan; I’m sorry! I forgot we had two records!

(Laughs)

Dan: Really good. We decided to go with a really kind of bizarre song. I feel like it’s not anything that would be a potential single for radio or to make a video for. It’s short and it’s kind of funky and it has some weird parts, but we thought it would be a good one to release first because musically it covers a lot of different ground and it kind of…I don’t know, it’s a wired one. But we thought it represented all the elements of the record like squished down into two minutes. You know what I mean? So it’s like, I think a good short little preview so we decided to release that and open the shows with it as well. And it’s going pretty good. Some people look confused and some people look like they’re getting into it. And I think the people that downloaded it and got in on it and know what it is are diggin' it…I think.


I know it from listening to your myspace so much!

Dan: Okay good!

Nathan: That is awesome! Thank you. When we posted it, we had the kids on our message board, who we kind of look to, to gage you know, how we’re doing (laughs) were really receptive to it, which was like, awesome to us! And like Dan said, it’s definitely not a single. I think it’s like track six, or seven, or eight on the record, but it doesn’t come out for another three moths, so we wanted to put something out there just to show that we’ve changed quite a bit and that the record at times is going to be ten times even more different than Never Walk Alone.


So do you feel like you’ve evolved between albums?

Nathan: Yeah.

Dan: Yes, definitely. I mean the sheer amount of just playing that we’ve done in the past couple of years is more than we’ve ever done on our whole lives. It’s like five, six nights a week for a couple years. And we’ve played all those same songs, hundreds of thousands of time. So now we got back and I think we wanted something new and different. I mean some of them still have a lot of the same aspects. We’re still the same band we were. It was only three years ago when we did that record. But it has changed a good bit, I think.

Nathan: Me, too.


How do you think your new album differs from your previous full length that you released?

Nathan: I feel like…the new album it has twelve songs on it and I feel like each song is kind of like it’s own island and they are very different from one-another. On From Them Through Us, the first record they all kind of had a similar thread. This one they’re all very different, but it’s clearly our band and I think clearly the kids who have supported us will dig it a lot. But it’s like, there are a lot of dramatic differences.

Dan: I think the extremes are a lot more, if that makes any sense. There are a couple songs that sound like they could have went with the other record, but whereas we got a little bit heavy at times on the first record, I feel like there was heavier parts got heavier. Our use of electronics and sequences and loops that we use have more predominant…So I feel like we took all the elements that we had and tried to expand them as much as we could.


You’ve said that you are influenced by the Smashing Pumpkins and Nine Inch Nails. Who else are you influenced by and what, if anything do you take from that inspiration that applies to your music?

Nathan: Well personally…actually…we are all really big fans of Muse and Billy Talent. Which we actually get to play with Nine Inch Nails and Billy Talent in Australia at Sound-wave on the same stage, so we’re like completely beside ourselves. We are so excited!


Oh my gosh, I’m excited FOR you!!

(Laughs)

Nathan: I know right! It is gonna be insane! And it’s in Australia, so that only helps! For me, The Pumpkins are always kind of in a league of their own and lyrically it was the first, that was the first band that just nailed me, yah know? I look up to Billy Corgan so much. And I think lyrically I try to kind of do what he does in terms of creating images. But I try to deliver it in a more accessible fashion. So I think that he is still my biggest influence, vocally anyway. And then he (Dan) has got weird ones!

(Laughs)

Dan: Yeah! No I mean we all came from the same sort of thing. I don’t even know about new bands. Like Mute Math and things like that. I dunno. It’s kind of hard when you are put on the spot to name a bunch of bands, but I think certain things make you feel a certain way and it’s not… I mean we listen to rap and everything. Reggae while we’re in the van. So it’s not so much trying to get that sort of guitar tone or like, a song that sounds like that. Just the way these songs make you feel. And your sh*t comes out and it inspires you to want to project that. So however you go about doing, hopefully it’s in a unique way…

Nathan: You’re good, you’re doing great!!

(Laughs)

Dan: Thanks!

Nathan: I’m really impressed!!

(Laughs)

Dan: But you know what I’m saying? We try not to sound like another band, per say but we try to replicate the way it makes us feel.

Nathan: Yeah!


Linkin Park specifically picked you guys to play the Revolution Stage at Projeckt Revolution in 2007, do you think this widened your fan base noticeably?

Nathan: Yeah, yeah without question. I think every band has to be of certain quality and of certain accessibility, for them to gain momentum and gather fans, but every one of them needs luck. You need a little luck to go with all of that, which is why your chances of succeeding is one in a billion (laughs) but when we were lucky enough to have the dudes in Linkin Park pick us, that was huge. It was like their stamp of approval on us and their kids were so gracious and took to us really well. So that opened up a whole new world.

Dan: It was huge for us at the time too cause that was two summers ago, so at that time we’d been touring for maybe about a year and up until then…

Nathan: Empty shows.

Dan: Yeah, there were maybe ten people at a show, maybe! It was a huge jump. A huge step up for us from then on…it was better! (Laughs) I mean it really got our name out there.

(Laughs)

Nathan: Now there were twenty people!

(Laughs)

Dan: (laughs) There were twenty people! But it was cool of them to do that cause it was like, you do need those steps and for whatever reason that they decided we’d be cool on that bill. It was real cool.


For anybody who hasn’t seen you live, can you please describe your live show?

Nathan: What we try to do is provide a release for people and it’s because that’s why people go to shows. Because life can be very routine and you can get into certain routines everyday and people need to go on vacation or go and do something or whatever, and going to shows is one of those. And feel like it would be a shame for people to go out to a show and not have an amazing experience, so we give everything we have in each song and each song we give equal attention and try to get the people involved as much as possible…try and urge them to not think about things as much, not worry about things and insecurities and all that stuff. You let them go for those forty minutes, at least and hopefully it’s therapeutic in a way.


Okay, usually we would ask what is it like to hear the crowd sing back to you, but since you’re in Canada, We I want to know, last year at Warped Tour your Canadian fans braved the number one weather disaster in Canada for 2008 to rock out to your set…

Nathan: Yes they did!!

Dan: Awesome!


How did that make you feel?

Nathan: That Warped Tour was unbelievable because I was watching stages getting shut down, and they didn’t shut ours down, which was awesome!

Dan: Thankfully!


Yours was when it just started to torrential downpour.

(At this point Stephen Christian from Anberlin came in the room, scaring the bejeebers out of me, to joke around with the guys.)

Stephen: These guys are jerks don’t talk to them!!

(Laughs)

Dan: Haha!

(Laughs)

Stephen: Not even worth talking to!!

(Laughs)

Nathan: HEY! You have somewhere to be don’t you? Thank you!

(Laughs)


(At this point Stephen stood in the doorway with a little frown on his face. and everyone enjoyed a laugh!)

Oh my gosh, he scared me!

(Laughs)

Nathan: Those dudes are amazing! I should actually take a second to say how awesome Anberlin is.


When we saw that you guys were playing with them, we got so excited!

Manda: Yeah, we were!

Because we were actually so stoked on them, but then we saw you guys were coming too and we got so excited on both bands!

[Jens note: At this they both did the ‘Yes!’ thing where you pull your fist back thing…if anyone gets it!]

Dan: We were too!

(Laughs)

Nathan: Yeah (laughs) we really were! (Laughing) this is not the ten or twenty kids we’re used to!

(Laughs)

Dan: It was like, man this is going back like three or four years ago when we first started the band. We would just make demos of our music, like copy them on our own computers of our CDs and pass them out at shows in Chicago, and these guys (referring to Anberlin) had a show at The House Of Blues in downtown Chicago, so we’re standing outside of an Anberlin show in like, fifteen degree weather handing out our CD, and now we get to do this! So it’s very cool!

Nathan: Gave one to him (Stephen).


Aw really?!

Dan: Yeah…’maybe he’ll listen to it!’

(Laughs)

Nathan: He was amazing. He sat and talked to us and we hadn’t even played a show yet and then years later we were on Warped together, and he remembered it! He was like, “Dudes!” and then they invited us on tour. I mean how cool is that?!

Dan: Pretty cool!


That is awesome!

Nathan: That’s a dude you marry!

(Laughs)


Should we expect a wedding in the future?

(Laughs)

Nathan: We are trying to get him to flirt with him a little bit!

(Laughs)

Dan: (Laughing) so…what was the question!?


I was just wondering what is was like to know that your Canadian fans braved a torrential downpour, which by the way, I’m sorry I have to point out, was the number one weather disaster in Canada last year.

Dan: Oh sh*t.

Nathan: Really?


Yes, I watched the news on New Years Eve!

(Laughs)

Nathan: It was bad!

It was raining sideways and hailing at the same time!

Manda: It kind of sucked!

Nathan: What I remember most about it was Matthew's fall! Do you guys remember him falling?

Dan: That was in Toronto.


Yeah that’s where we were!

Dan: Oh then you did see! I’m sorry!!

(Laughs)

Nathan: I thought I’d lost my mind!

Dan: Yeah, we wiped out!

Nathan: He wiped out. And he was like…at one point I remember seeing him horizontal…

Dan: His legs were straight up in the air.

(Laughs)


Manda: I think I actually remember this…

Yes, me too!

(Laughs)

Nathan: …and somehow in two seconds he was mangled in cables and tarps and literally stuck, which only makes it that much cooler! Not only did you make a jackass out of yourself, but then you are stuck in jackass mode! That was awesome!

(Laughs)


[Jens Note: I have to point out that at this time we all turned to look at Matthew…and him and Mateo were watching Anberlin's encore out of the window like little children watching for Santa! Cute!]

What fuels your passion for what you do?

Dan: Oh wow…I think first of all other bands and music that keep inspiring us and also just the fact that we’re able to do it and like, come to Canada and meet people that like the band and like our music. It doesn’t get any cooler than that. To me, I dunno what you were going to say! I would do it forever if it was possible. I think most people would. It’s like the coolest experience you could ever have, yah know? To think that somebody likes your stupid song that you wrote (Laughs) … like, the four of us sit in this sh*tty little place and write music. It’s cool. So if it makes them feel good it makes us feel good.

Nathan: They write us letters or give us gifts and stuff on tour or whatever and it makes you feel…like they tell you what you mean to them and that is something I could die comfortably with, you know what I mean? It’s the fact that everyone should kind of be part of a society and contribute in different ways and if someone could grant us the gift of letting us think that we helped them in any way, shape or form that is everything.


If you were in charge of the music industry what would be the first thing you’d change?

Dan: Oh god.

Nathan: Yeah I don’t know if I can answer that!

Dan: Yeah, there are a lot of things I feel like need to be changed. I feel like there was a time a little while ago where it was about the music people wrote and more like…I don’t know how to say it…

Nathan: More genuine.

Dan: Yeah, more genuine. I mean it wasn’t just about how good people look in their video on MTV where they announce how many records they sold, do you know what I mean? I dunno…songs on the radio could be six minutes long. Records where made as albums, because people wanted to hear twelve songs in a row because they all tied in, versus buying one song for ninety-nine cents so the record doesn’t really mean as much anymore. The whole package kind of got diluted a little bit. Now it’s about…quick little see what punch you can throw in and make some noise and then get out versus longevity and artists making eight records in their career instead of two. Do you know what I mean?


Yeah.

Nathan: Oh I agree.

Dan: I think it’s gotten a lot harder and a little less genuine. But I don’t think you could do that by changing one thing, so I dunno.


Well it would be a law that would have to stick.

Nathan: Yeah but its like, the obsession with celebrity and being this pop-star and emulating that person and blah blah blah…had never made sense to us, yah know like, to me, you love a band because you love their songs and you like the artwork on their record and you like those kinds of things. And I think that everything had gotten a little absorbed too much into that shallower aspect of celebrity. So I don’t exactly know how I would change that, but I would think long and hard about it!

(Laughs)


So here at The Sound Faction we usually ask five of the most random questions at the end of our interviews, but since you need to get on with your night, we will only ask two if you’re up for it!

Nathan: Awesome. Yes!


So who would you want to win a date with?

Nathan: Oh we just saw a bunch last night…

Dan: Fiona Apple.

Nathan: Yeah!

Dan: Usually it’s a contest, who can pick her first, me or him! I like her a lot.

(Laughs)

Nathan: Yeah! Who did I see last night on…

Dan: Jenny McCarthy?

Nathan: …No, Kate Beckinsale or…no. One of those. See I don’t know every many big celebs to be honest.

Dan: Kate something. Me neither. We suck at famous people!

(Laughs)

Nathan: Wait wait. It’s one of those Beckinsales is that right?


Well Kate was the common thing there.

Dan: Tom Cruises’ wife?

Nathan: Oh, yeah! Katie Holmes! That’s it! I love Katie Holmes! I dunno she seems so nice!


Out of the rejected names for Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs, who would you be out of Biggy-Wiggy, Dirty, Struty, Burpy, Struty and Jaunty?

Both: Jaunty?!

(Laughs)

Dan: I don’t know what that means so I’ll pick it!

Nathan: It sounds like Jaundice.

Dan: I had Jaundice once.

Nathan: Shut up!

Dan: Yeah, I was born with it!

Nathan: With Jaundice?! Were you yellow!?

Dan: Yeah. I was yellow and I had…apparently I looked like…


(Someone in the room yelled urine.)

Dan: Bert (Bert and Ernie!) I had a cone head!

(Laughs)

Nathan: HA! You had Jaundice?!

Dan: Yeah. They had to pry me out with those things, so my head was all black and blue and cone shaped!

Nathan: I didn’t know! (Nathan gave Dan a very nice hug at this point.)

(Laughs)

Mateo: I was born without a chin!

Nathan and Dan: Really?!

Mateo: I struggled so hard my chin like, sucked in! The first thing my dad did when he saw me was (makes a vomiting noise)

(Laughs)

Nathan: He’s like, ‘Throw it back!’

(Laughs)


Oh that’s horrible!

(Laughs)

Dan: So Jaundice the dwarf. That’s mine!!


And that’s it! Thank you!

Nathan: Thank you! You guys are awesome! I’m sorry that we had to make it so quick!


It’s not a problem. Thank you so much!

Dan: I hope you are able to hear all this…


(Keep in mind, we just an interview above a live show! It was actually loud, but I heard them!)



We would like to thank Madina Lake again for taking the time to talk to us. Check them out at their MySpace.




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